Armchair GM: Michael Vick is Destroying My Ability to Enjoy Steelers Football

Please read the first paragraph (at least) of this article before you comment on this post. Thanks.

“As that dog lay on the ground, fighting for air, Quanis Phillips grabbed its front legs and Michael Vick grabbed its back legs. They swung the dog over their head like a jump rope then slammed it to the ground. The first impact didn’t kill it. So, Phillips and Vick slammed it again. The two men kept at it, alternating back and forth, pounding the creature against the ground until, at last, the little red dog was dead.” Court documents quoted in the book ‘The Lost Dogs’

Sorry I had to hit you with that without warning but I’m really sick of people defending the man. And that’s one of the milder passages from the book, ‘The Lost Dogs’, of what went on at ‘Bad Newz Kennels’. If you still want to defend him after reading that promo I would ask everyone to say a prayer for you.

Living the Nightmare

Watching Ben go down and watching Michael Vick come in and ‘lead’ the Steelers is something so horrid and foreign to my perception of what the Steelers are about it may as well have been taking place in a David Lynch movie.

Mike Tomlin’s fist pump and hug with Michael Vick after his absolutely terrible performance at the end the Rams game just about made me want to throw up.

I’m serious. It makes me sick to my stomach every time I see him in a Steelers uniform.

From a Lifelong Steelers Fan

I’m a Pittsburgh Steelers fan of 45 years. Yeah, that’s right, scary but true. My life with the team I love, the Pittsburgh Steelers begins in 1970. They were the laughing stock of the NFL. They were a team who had never done anything. Art Rooney (the Old Man) had just brought in this Chuck Noll guy, who had a reputation for being tough, to try to make the hapless franchise into a winner Mean Joe Greene was an out of control rookie. Terry Bradshaw was yet to take a snap from center. There as no Swann, no Stallworth, no Franco, no Jack Lambert, No Mel Blount and no Steel Curtain. The Steelers going to a Super Bowl??? Yeah, right. In your dreams.

I’ve been with the team through thick and thin. Through the glory days of the 70’s Super Bowl years, through Cliff Stoudt proving Chuck Noll’s saying that the quarterback was, indeed, one eleventh of the offense. Through interminable decline and malaise of the 80’s. Through Bubby F-ing Brister. Through the early years of the Cowher era. Through the Super Bowl loss to the hated Cowboys. Through the Kordell Stewart pretending to be an NFL caliber quarterback days. All the way back to the return to former glory with 2 wins in 3 Super Bowl appearances and up to today, while I write this article.

In that time I’ve lived in Arizona, Florida and Los Angeles with a little stint in the heart of darkness, Dallas, Texas. But no matter where I lived there was always a core community of Steelers fans. We would gather at the local Steelers bar and in recent years watch NFL Game Pass at one another’s house. One of the things that was a characteristic of all Steelers fans and one of the reasons the team ‘travels so well’ is the belief that the Steelers represent a higher standard, not only in football but in the Rooney’s approach to the business. The fact that they were the first to start a black quarterback by choice, their leadership in fighting for the Rooney Rule, making it a requirement that minorities be interviewed for coaching positions, the Steelers unspoken 3 strikes rule on problem players, showing both understanding that we are all human and firmness that there a was a standard to be upheld, this with the toughness and no nonsense attitude form the core of the Steeler Way.

I’ve never not loved the Steelers. They are part of my DNA.

Lately, under Mike Tomlin, it can be said, the Steelers standard has been lowered. The tolerance of Ben’s past questionable activities, even though no charges were ever filed, have been a sore spot. Multiple occurrences with substance abuse among players, though hardly the sole domain of the Steelers franchise, have sullied that reputation. But nothing prepared me for the nightmare I am now living having a person who not only forced dog’s to fight each other in a vicious and cruel blood sport but killed dogs, electrocuting, hanging, drowning and beating to death helpless animals with his own hands for his own amusement.

I’m now in the impossible position of cheering for a team while hoping with all my heart it’s quarterback fails miserably.

Mike Tomlin, because this is totally Mike Tomlin’s call, has forced this horrid situation even when Matt Cassell (now gone to Dallas) Rex Grossman, who has actually led his team to Super Bowl, something Vick has never done and Matt Flynn, ALL better options for a backup quarterback, became available they were not even considered. It is Tomlin who hosted a football camp with Vick and Tomlin who reportedly wanted to sign Vick right after he got out of prison for racketeering charges.

So, no, Michael Vick has never served a day for cruelty to animals. Those charges which would have been a considerable were dropped due to his crafty lawyers. He repeatedly lied and only began telling the truth when others had turned witness against him. He does nothing to help and shows no interest in Vicktory Dogs, the organization who found homes for and rehabilitated dogs that were liberated from his cruelty. He has only done what was needed to preserve his career.

Maybe some of you can look beyond that. Maybe some of you can think that ‘winning’ is more important than the life of an animal who only wants love and is genetically hardwired to look to human beings for that love. Maybe some of you can get it out of your head that a pit bull has the intelligence of 2 to 3 year old child and has the simplicity of heart of a child. Maybe some of you can get the image out of your head of what their short lives were like in a hellish existence where they had to attack or be attacked and then, when they failed, were tortured to death by the one they were conditioned to look to for love and comfort. Maybe you can get the incredible level of cruelty Michael Vick inflicted on these poor animals, with his own hands for his own amusement, out of your mind and go on as if all is well.

Maybe you can but I really don’t know that I can.

As always but with sadness,

Go Stillers!

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133 Comments on this post.
  • David Thomas
    29 September 2015 at 2:25 pm
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    This is the dumbest article that’s out, how is this page called Pittsburgh Blitz and your talking about something nobody cared about. Change your name to Pittsburgh Dog Lovers Page. Maybe you show talk more about football and stop being up people pass. DONT WANT TO HEAR IT.

    • Kivatar
      29 September 2015 at 3:15 pm
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      Thank you for this. ♥

    • jenn
      29 September 2015 at 3:37 pm
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      you steelers “fans” are pathetic. Wanting a sociopathic dog killer on the team for the sake of football? this man did much more than “fight dogs”, he tortured them! that is what a sociopath is capable of. He has shown no real remorse – his PR people are pulling the strings trying to make him look better, but you all turn a blind eye because you want the team to win football games. There is a much bigger picture here. Anyone convicted of a felony and who does time in prison has NO BUSINESS being on a professional sports team. period. it’s time to clean up the NFL!

      • Jimbob
        29 September 2015 at 6:59 pm
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        Why is everyone so quick to jump on Vick but everyone seems to forget Ben Roethlisberger’s shady settlement for sexual assault?

        • JOEBOB
          30 September 2015 at 1:01 am
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          She wasn’t a dog Jimbob…

        • Sybil Ward
          29 December 2015 at 2:53 am
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          No one forgets the sexual assault dumb ass
          two separate issues. HE is scum If Peter Rose cant go to a ball game then this piece of shit should NEVER PLAY FOOTBALL.

      • lj 176
        30 September 2015 at 11:49 am
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        Thank you GOD for your comments. I hope your passion for this idiotic expression; resignates the same, when children are molested, women are beaten and murdered. I love my animals to. But these zealot type of opinions, are way off course. Keep living!

        • Sybil Ward
          29 December 2015 at 2:55 am
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          lj you are too stupid for words they Are separate issues and all wrong. HE IS GARBAGE

      • Tim
        30 September 2015 at 3:35 pm
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        With all due respect, Jenn. I think this article more than anything shows that Steelers “fans” do not want Michael Vick on their team. I love my Steelers. Through and through. As I live in Kansas City I rarely get the chance to see them play and can’t describe the excitement I felt earlier this year when I saw that Pittsburg was playing the Chiefs at Arrowhead this year. As soon as tickets were available, I purchased. $500 for mid level tickets near the 50. Steelers side. I sold them to a friend for $250. The day after Vick started. Does that fit into your model of “pathetic”?

        • Marnita
          1 October 2015 at 10:48 am
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          This article does not show anything except one person’s OPINION. He does not speak for all Steelers “fans”, of which I am one. (And I picked up on the word “fans” in quotes)

        • jenn
          1 October 2015 at 11:43 am
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          My apologies to Tim, i have been slammed daily by other fans on the steelers page and many others. You are an exception and i apologize for lumping all us fans into one group. I love the steelers as well, i just cannot watch this sociopath play for our team. Thanks for setting me straight!!

      • Rahrah
        17 January 2016 at 10:09 pm
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        U mf’s tortured us black folk, raped our ancestors, 2015 and still killing our black youths and u talking about a few dogs? We are humankind yet no seem to care for our well being! Dig a hole n crawl in it!

        • Terry
          20 January 2016 at 11:50 pm
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          And you, sir, are a bigot. Black on Black crime runs rampant, yet you want to blame white people? You can’t spell or speak English. Can you read? Did you read the article? Racism has nothing to do with Vick killing dogs, but it surely shows up in your response.

    • B. Hulick
      29 September 2015 at 3:44 pm
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      Please, remember that we all are a result of how we are raised. If we are raised to abuse, we see that as normal. Michael Vick was raised in a culture where dog fighting was the normal and therefore he thought it was normal. He has seen how wrong it was. You are not judge and jury so please present all facts; not just the ones you want to present.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=45&v=e6LRCq5EouA

      • Debbie
        29 September 2015 at 10:22 pm
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        Yes, it’s easy to stand in front of a camera and speak empty words and play the poor me card to the public. What he did was nothing short of cold blooded murder and torture. It’s not like he simply took the dogs out back and shot them once in the head. No, he hung, drown, choked, beat, electrocuted and tortured these defenseless loving creatures simply for the fun of it. I know plenty of people who were raised in less than perfect neighborhoods, but they don’t kill for fun. No, you need to rethink your statement. If its okay, to you, for Vick to simply say he’s sorry, and now the word is right again. Then I suppose it’s safe to assume that a baby killer who says he’s sorry and blames it on his environment should be okay back in society playing professional sports for millions of dollars a year. The only difference is a baby killer usually gets caught after only a couple of killings. Where Vick killed dozens of innocents.

        • sharon
          30 September 2015 at 1:52 am
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          Sorry, B. Hulick, you do not get to make excuses for him on that score. It simply isn’t true! I know someone who went to high school with this slimeball, and trust me, he had PLENTY of opportunities to leave his so-called bad atmosphere behind like every other star quarterback, or didn’t that ever occur to you? Has the high school hierarchy changed that much that people don’t even realize that everyone wants the football hero to hang out with them, and that includes everyone living on the right side of the tracks so to speak. Vick CHOSE his thug friends over doing the right thing time and time again, just as he did in COLLEGE. He bought the first of his dogs used for breeding at Bad Newz Kennels while in college: did you know that? Every single person who wants to blame “the culture” knows NOTHING about the so-called culture nor Vick’s part in it. It is NOT part of southern culture. It is NOT normal even where he lived to fight dogs, and making excuses like that is wrong. You, and people like you, simply do not know what you are talking about.

      • Nik
        1 October 2015 at 9:30 pm
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        Just because you’re raised with something, does not mean you do not know it’s wrong. There’s a reason why dog fights aren’t televised, there’s a reason they’re done in the middle of the woods in broken down barns and shops, there’s a reason why they have their own lingo, there’s a reason why there’s only a small group present, there’s a reason why you don’t walk around seeing people swing a living animal over there head and throwing it to the ground until it dies – YOU KNOW IT’S WRONG.

      • Sybil Ward
        3 January 2016 at 7:10 pm
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        hey you B. Hulick
        September 29, 2015 at 3:44 pm

        Please, remember that we all are a result of how we are raised. If we are raised to abuse, we see that as normal. Michael Vick was raised in a culture where dog fighting was the normal and therefore he thought it was normal. He has seen how wrong it was. You are not judge and jury so please present all facts; not just the ones you want to present.
        Answer to Hulick: he was not raised to do this WRONG
        His Uncle told him to stop in 2005
        He had several domestic abuse calls to his home in VA (prior to marrying) his present wife
        He went to jail for money laundering this is public record, read it..
        He never wrote any book it was a publicity stunt- It was written by a ghost writer
        Pete Rose cant have anything to do with Baseball and this piece of crap can play football…hmmmmm
        Those of us posting are equally concerned with rape and molestation of people – be they children or adults.
        However, that is not the subject of this post. MV is a psychopath. VACANT eyes
        he got caught
        He is not sorry – just mad he got caught –the rescue organization that took in over 25 of his damage dogs is BEST FRIENDS in Utah
        He never offered them a penny … he never called them to ask about the dogs. CALL them they will verify it

        So I am tired of people defending him WHY? Because he can play football? Hell I can go grab a few of the kids who play in the Harlem team from FDR school next door, some of whom can play just a good as this person can. so really?
        Sports – in any field can be filled by good payers with awesome talent..
        he shoudl be doing anything but p[laying football. He has to move all the time no one wants him in thier town representing their teams,,,
        He needs to get a therapist Because I truly believe one day he is going to snap
        1.beats girlfriend, now wife, kills dogs hmmmm

    • Jim McMillen
      29 September 2015 at 4:00 pm
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      Several people care about this issue. Just because you don’t David, does not mean others don’t as well. Your welcome to your opinion though. Thanks for the comment.

    • Deb
      29 September 2015 at 5:27 pm
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      Maybe if you don’t want to hear it, you shouldn’t have read it……you knew by the title of this article what it was going to be about…

    • Dennis
      30 September 2015 at 12:26 am
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      I love it when people speak in absolutes. It is proof they have no idea what they are talking about. Like when you say “no body cared about” michael vick proving he is a psychopath and being caught.

      Yes, i am sure YOU and other dont care so long as you get to watch a bunch of people far richer than you who wouldnt give you the time of day play other people who fall in the too good to talk to you category and beat them at a game that kids also play.

      I am 100% sure there are other people like you who have zero perspective in their life and value entertainment over morals. That you think “no body” else cared because you dont, is pretty indicative of how valid your opinion is.

    • Michelle
      30 September 2015 at 3:56 am
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      David Thomas…your compassion is overwhelming. What a wonderful society we live in when someone can overlook the heinous acts of one person because that person is a means to an end. Let’s face it, the only reason Vick is still playing in the NFL is because he is considered “bankable”. But that is what professional sports are all about-the almighty dollar. Well, good for him! Enjoy it now Vick because someday you will be as disposable as those losing dogs you so inhumanly killed. And believe me there would be more people standing in line to volunteer to smash YOUR worthless body into concrete (if it was only legal) than have ever been in the stands, on the side line or sitting at home cheering you on while you are playing on the field! So, since you said that this article should ONLY be about the Steelers and not about some dumb dog lovers and nobody cares about this subject (paraphrasing here) but you are wrong, my friend. You are selling the fans of the Steelers short by assuming they are all cold hearted assholes (or is that “passholes”?).

    • Lynn E
      1 October 2015 at 4:21 am
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      Seems like you would have been standing right next to Vick when he was killing dogs.
      People DO care & need to speak up against sub-humans like you and Vick

    • Terry Evangelista
      1 October 2015 at 4:17 pm
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      Heartless!

  • Tommy Jones
    29 September 2015 at 2:27 pm
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    This is why I dislike you on Facebook, your a hypocrite and I hope you lose fans and viewers. In other words you suck as a journalist.

  • Karen
    29 September 2015 at 2:45 pm
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    Thank you for this. I was born with black & gold blood but now it’s tainted with the red of dogs’ blood. I cannot stand the site of Vick in our colors. He plea bargained his way out of dogfighting charges after he had admitted his participation. The Steelers blind-sided fans by signing him. They’ve broken my heart & stomped on it. Enjoy the Steelers? Not. Any. More.

  • Jim McMillen
    29 September 2015 at 2:45 pm
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    Several people care about this issue. Just because you don’t David, does not mean others don’t as well. Your welcome to your opinion though. Thanks for the comment.

  • Judy Tarr
    29 September 2015 at 2:47 pm
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    Oh I so agree, you just said everything that I am feeling with the very core of my being. I am a forgiving person, and I am a person who has needed forgiveness; but, the lack of remorse for the animals that is so apparent in Michael Vick is something that I just cannot forgive. He tortured animals with his own hands, he threw family pets in as bait dogs and laughed while watching them torn apart, he has no soul – in my opinion…….

  • Kendall Williams
    29 September 2015 at 2:49 pm
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    This some bullshit

  • Deb Kowalski
    29 September 2015 at 3:01 pm
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    This is a great article. This sums up my feelings. I have been a Steeler fan for over 35 years thru thick and thin but the hiring of Vick has changed this. My black and gold heart has been broken!!!

    • Jim
      29 September 2015 at 4:25 pm
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      I could not agree more. I have been a fan for 58 years and I get sick to my stomach watching Vick in Black n Gold. Its a total betrayal of everything the Steelers have stood for ever since The Chief bought them. For the first time in many many years I am not flying my Steeler Flag on game day, my Myron Cope signed Terrible Towel remains in the closet, nest to my favorite Steeler Jersey. I cannot support a team with Vick on it, especially now that he will be a starter. I blame Tomlin for all of this. He has been trying to get Vick signed since the day he got out of prison. They come from the same community and have the same background – 2 of a kind. They both need to go.

  • NK
    29 September 2015 at 3:04 pm
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    This is EXACTLY how I feel. As if I had written it myself. I LOVE Steeler football. And I can’t bear to watch it anymore. In fact, I’ve not watched one NFL game this year. I’ll stick with baseball, hockey and college football from now on.

  • SteelerBoi92
    29 September 2015 at 3:05 pm
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    You know what, I’m so sick of people like you who sit on yo ass judging people like you God almighty!!! Can you sit here and honestly say that your slate is clean with the almighty?? Can you sit here and say that you’re a sure fire candidate to go to Heaven??? Really!?!?!? Keep on judging people, from the depths of Hell you will be lifting up your eyes, fool!!!!

    • Deb
      29 September 2015 at 6:22 pm
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      Well, Steelerboi92, yup I can sit on my ass and say that I have NEVER intentionally tortured and abused an animal for 6 years, like yo buddy Mike Vick did….I have never put jumper cables on a dog’s ears and then throw that dog into a pool of water to see it fry….like yo buddy Mike Vick did. I have never picked up an animal and threw it down on the ground countless times until it’s body was crushed and it perished…like you buddy Mike Vick did. I never fought dogs until the death and benefited by making millions of dollars from their pain and their deaths, like yo buddy Mike Vick did. So yes, I can say that I will be going to heaven…unlike yo buddy Mike Vick.

      • Jules
        29 September 2015 at 8:33 pm
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        Good job Deb! You are correct!

      • Nik
        1 October 2015 at 9:33 pm
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        Couldn’t have summed it what I was going to say any better than what you said, DEB

    • Lynn E
      1 October 2015 at 4:24 am
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      Give me a break, killing dogs and the screaming you are doing about who hasn’t done something wrong….. If you think so little of life you are in the same category as Vick. Sub-human & a waste of air

    • Samantha
      1 October 2015 at 3:31 pm
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      Uh, yes, I am absolutely certain that I have never been to jail for gambling across state lines. And I am absolutely certain that I have never abused animals. I am also very certain that I have never lied in front of a judge and only capitulated because my friends were throwing me under the bus in an attempt to save their own skins. I am also 100% certain I have never declared bankruptcy to protect my assets.

      I am also 1000% certain that I have worked in animal medicine and animal welfare for 14 years and have seen the results of neglect and abuse because of soul-less sociopaths like Vick.

      So, uhhhh, yeah…I’m fairly certain I can call a spade a spade. Vick’s a horrible human being. He doesn’t deserve happiness or success.

      I’m also certain of that, but I don’t mean to sound judgemental.

  • Theresa
    29 September 2015 at 3:22 pm
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    I stopped reading when you referred to Mr. Rooney as “The Old Man” I have always known him as “The Chief!” Yes, we have our own opinion, so in saying that, I will stand by the decision that Michael Vick is now our QB until Big Ben is cleared to take a snap… The past is the past, we all have skeletons in our closets, let the man do his job for our team… Go Steelers!! (thumbs up)

  • VickisSick
    29 September 2015 at 3:26 pm
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    Maybe the world will get lucky and someone will deliver a career ending hit to that scumbag! Thank you for writing this.

  • Marsha L.
    29 September 2015 at 3:30 pm
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    Agree with you 100%! Thank you for the article!!

  • Terry Griffith
    29 September 2015 at 3:33 pm
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    The hate and stupidity of the people criticizing this article amazes me. They just don’t understand how they have been disrespected by the Steelers organization and have the gall to berate those who do. Tomlin has flaunted his arrogance in the face of Steelers fans who have supported the team for many years by assuming no one will care about having such a despicable person lead the team. When this season of shame is over and people start to realize that he has defiled the faith of so many supporters and long time fans, the management will have to asses all aspects of what they have done. As long as Vick and Tomlin are still in the organization, it will be a black spot on an otherwise respectable football team.

  • Judith Pannebaker
    29 September 2015 at 3:34 pm
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    Your assessment of the thug was spot on and all your information correct. Thank you for writing this. Perhaps someday, a dog lover on the field will clothesline the thug. Never forget, never forgive.

  • Kris
    29 September 2015 at 3:35 pm
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    Steelers fan from 1976. I can’t watch them anymore. They followed suit of the NFL and sold out their morals and ethics for $$$. Their fans and their fans’ kids mean nothing to them. they expose them to heinous felons.

  • Les
    29 September 2015 at 3:43 pm
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    This is a hit-piece disguised as a sports column. Vick completed 90 percent of his passes and was able to close out the victory. He will only improve with more reps.

    Either do your job as a sports columnist or go write for Lassie magazine.

  • SpiderBorland
    29 September 2015 at 3:48 pm
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    People DO care about this. His actions are deplorable and he has NOT paid his “debt to society.” He said it best with “Maybe some of you can think that ‘winning’ is more important than the life of an animal.”

  • Ken Meltzer
    29 September 2015 at 3:48 pm
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    I’m not sure I can lay the blame on Tomlin for the misbehavior/crimes of various Steeler players he is coaching. I think that’s more of a league-wide problem. But when Michael Vick was allowed back into the league, I could always console myself with the fact that he would never, never be a Pittsburgh Steeler. The fact that Vick now is a Steeler is on Tomlin. And while I’ll root for the Steelers again once Vick is gone, I’ll never look at them the same way again.

  • Kathy
    29 September 2015 at 3:49 pm
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    I would love to see Pittsburgh gather together with their “misdirected rage” for a worthy cause. I find everyone that has been complaining about this situation, a total hypocrite and imbecile. It hurts me as a human to hear all the complaints about him as a football player (because of dogs), but not for the many other atrocities that can be helped in this world. For all those that cannot watch the Steelers anymore – why don’t you go do a good deed for the homeless or – heck – the animal shelters- instead of whining like a bunch of babies.

    • Terry
      30 September 2015 at 6:25 am
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      Michael Vick drowned, hung, electrocuted and beat dogs to death. He did not serve one second for animal cruelty. For all of you think it’s best to ‘forgive’, you need to understand that you can’t. Only the ones sinned against can forgive. And for those of you who think what he did is somehow justified, whether it be cultural, racial, etc., you are so off base. Whether or not you know it, an animal’s life is more important than a game for you to get drunk watching and act like a complete moron while dressing all in black and gold & painting your face like a boor. And if you think it’s the Christian thing to do (that forgiveness thing), ask yourself if God thinks your silly game is more important than the animals he created. If you still don’t get it, I’m sorry for you.

  • Dave Hrinak
    29 September 2015 at 3:52 pm
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    Since I am no longer a Steelers fan, and never will be again because of the Vick signing, I don’t have to worry about rooting for the Steelers again. Your article is well-written, and obviously you have ethics, and a brain, unlike the people who would have Hitler at QB is he could complete passes.

    • StirFriedPanda
      30 September 2015 at 4:39 am
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      I don’t think you know who Hitler is.

  • Terri
    29 September 2015 at 3:52 pm
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    I’m so in agreement with this article. It’s like I had written it myself! I hope more people see the hatred in Vick & see what a horrible scum he is! We need to get him off of our team cause he doesn’t belong here or anywhere else in the NFL! Rally against him along with the Pittsburghers Against Michael Vick before the game this Thursday night!

  • Scott
    29 September 2015 at 4:00 pm
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    Honestly, I’m not real thrilled about the whole Vick affair either…..frankly I never liked the guy as a quarterback, he’s too inconsistent. But that aside, I find it equally (if not MORE) repulsive how people can be in such a rage over the animal cruelty crap when there are COUNTLESS human babies destroyed DAILY, AND no one bats an eye. It’s ludicrous, truly ludicrous. And a sure sign of why our whole society is such a shit mess in these current times.

    I care about animals, make no mistake. But I put those human babies (who, let me remind you, deserve a shot at life much more than some full grown adults) on a much higher pedestal than dogs or cats…….let’s get our priorities straight and start saving unborn babies.

    And back to Vick, The Good Book says we are to forgive, not to judged lest we be judged ourselves, just keep that in mind in the midst of all of this crap……

    • Kivatar
      29 September 2015 at 5:35 pm
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      Scott, what baffles me is that you and so many others assume that we can’t passionately oppose more than one atrocity. Just because we stand up for the dogs doesn’t mean we don’t emotionally and financially support other issues. So PLEASE stop accusing people of not caring about babies or other human suffering. I care about babies and war and cancer and equality and refugees … and I care about the animals that Vick slaughtered.

      I don’t judge the man. I just his actions and his complete lack of remorse (he stated in a live interview that he wouldn’t change a thing except the length of his prison sentence, and I’ve yet to hear him say otherwise.) It’s not my place to forgive, but I will never forget.

    • Sybil Ward
      3 January 2016 at 7:12 pm
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      September 29, 2015 at 3:44 pm

      Please, remember that we all are a result of how we are raised. If we are raised to abuse, we see that as normal. Michael Vick was raised in a culture where dog fighting was the normal and therefore he thought it was normal. He has seen how wrong it was. You are not judge and jury so please present all facts; not just the ones you want to present.
      Answer to Hulick: he was not raised to do this WRONG
      His Uncle told him to stop in 2005
      He had several domestic abuse calls to his home in VA (prior to marrying) his present wife
      He went to jail for money laundering this is public record, read it..
      He never wrote any book it was a publicity stunt- It was written by a ghost writer
      Pete Rose cant have anything to do with Baseball and this piece of crap can play football…hmmmmm
      Those of us posting are equally concerned with rape and molestation of people – be they children or adults.
      However, that is not the subject of this post. MV is a psychopath. VACANT eyes
      he got caught
      He is not sorry – just mad he got caught –the rescue organization that took in over 25 of his damage dogs is BEST FRIENDS in Utah
      He never offered them a penny … he never called them to ask about the dogs. CALL them they will verify it

      So I am tired of people defending him WHY? Because he can play football? Hell I can go grab a few of the kids who play in the Harlem team from FDR school next door, some of whom can play just a good as this person can. so really?
      Sports – in any field can be filled by good payers with awesome talent..
      he shoudl be doing anything but p[laying football. He has to move all the time no one wants him in their town representing their teams,,,
      He needs to get a therapist Because I truly believe one day he is going to snap
      1.beats girlfriend, now wife, kills dogs hmmmm

  • Bill Eggert
    29 September 2015 at 4:01 pm
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    Amen, JB!!!! I agree with your article 100% !!!!!
    Well-said on all points!!!!

  • Becky Drenner
    29 September 2015 at 4:16 pm
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    I knew right from the start that Tomlin didn’t consider anyone else. I totally felt like throwing up when I heard the news and then seeing him come out on the field to play. The way is was brought up has nothing to do with the choices he has chosen in his life. Was the hit on Ben deliberate so that Vick could play????? I was on a cruise when this game was being played so needless to say I didn’t see the end nor will I watch another one until Ben is back. One more thing: Ben was never convicted or charged with anything.

  • J.B. Brewster
    29 September 2015 at 4:16 pm
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    Correction: the organization who took the ‘worst’ of Vick’s dogs was Best Friends Animal Society. The 22 dogs who went there for rehabilitation (aka to learn how to be dogs) were dubbed The Vicktory Dogs by BFAS staff.

  • Kevin
    29 September 2015 at 4:27 pm
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    You are as journalist are a joke. If you are truly a Pittsburgh sports website you would not promote this clearly biased opinion in delusional individuals. You blame crafty lawyers for Mike Vick not being convicted on animal abuse charges, however that is nowhere near correct. The federal charges or racketeering carried a more sever penalty, therefore trumping the animal charges. Secondly, regardless of the articles and evidence you and your friends continue to promote, it is mostly heresay without any factual evidence. The prosecution knew this and offered the plea bargain based upon the charges they knew they could get a guilty plea out of. They did not want to pursue the animal charges because their case was weak and they knew it, therefore offered the plea bargain. Your group of delusional so-called “fans” are clearly just bandwagoners that were always one step away from not watching the Steelers, they only paid attention because it was the coolest thing they did in their life. None of these people so violently against Mike Vick did anything when he played in Philly and New York. Why? Most likely, because they really don’t care, but all of a sudden he comes to Pittsburgh and everyone is holier than now. Here’s some reality, the Rooney’s and Steelers were never above the rest of the NFL. The Steelers started and promoted steroid abuse, it is well documented. Ernie Holmes shot up a police helicopter while driving down the parkway. The Steelers have a man on payroll that cleans up all the dirty things you don’t hear about on the news that the Steeler players do. Get a grip on reality and go do something worthwhile with your time that will actually help animal abuse if you truly care.

    • Kivatar
      29 September 2015 at 5:09 pm
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      Hearsay my ass! Vick himself admitted that he electrocuted, drowned, beat, and hung dogs. The reason he was offered a plea deal back then was because animal abuse didn’t warrant the prison terms it does now, and racketeering was the best way to hold him accountable somehow. (Had he done it today, he’d be serving years in prison for his heinous crimes. The evidence is clear; unfortunately, most people don’t take the time to learn the facts and instead think that Vick is rehabilitated and has repented (neither of which are true).

      The odd thing is that, while people like me express our objection to Vick (a convicted felon) being signed to the Steelers, it is people like you who seem to be the most angry. We aren’t making threats or being obnoxious. We are simply saying that until Vick is no longer on the team, we choose to not spend our money on anything Steeler-related.

      And FYI, most of us who love dogs more than a football game DO worthwhile things with our time that actually make a different. We donate our funds and rescue animals and save the lives of the dogs, like Vick’s, that didn’t have the second chance that Vick got. The “delusional” fans are the ones, apparently like you, that think winning a football game is more important than standing up for what’s right. Enjoy your football. I have dogs to take care of.

  • Casey
    29 September 2015 at 5:11 pm
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    Well said!! It is disgusting how so many people act like this is not a huge deal!!! He shouldn’t be playing at all. And for those that say there are other players that have done terrible things, they shouldn’t play either if they are convicted. These players are role models our children look up to.

  • Katie
    29 September 2015 at 5:33 pm
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    Thank you for this article! I would like to respond to the post that encouraged the consideration of Vick’s past as an explanation of his actions…if we accept his behaviors on this principle then everyone growing up in disadvantaged areas should be free to do as he or she pleases..this argument is tricky because it absolves people of responsibility for their own choices. In addition Vick was still torturing animals long after he had been provided many opportunities most average people never get (a full college scholarship,million dollar salary for playing a game, etc..). He is a dangerous man and while I am not “without sin”, I have never tortured any living thing for fun and am ok with one day standing before my god and explaining why I couldn’t get passed this.

  • Derek Garrett
    29 September 2015 at 6:02 pm
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    Anyone who defends this pos is just as bad as he is. He knows right from wrong or he wouldnt have tried to hide it. I was a steelers fan for as long as i can remember. Now i wont do anything to support them or the NFL. Vick is an animal and he deserves to be put in a ring with his hands cuffed behind him with a pit bull and then slammed to the ground until he has to use a feeding tube and wear a shit bag for the rest of his life.

  • Kevin
    29 September 2015 at 6:04 pm
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    Once again you continue to dwell on the past and prove just how ridiculous your objections are. All I see in your rebuttal was if he did this now, you would have gotten the punishment you see fit for the crime. However, the laws were the laws at that time and he was punished accordingly. I implore you to truly do your research and understand how the legal system works. Plea bargains are only offered and agreed to when a trial is to be avoided, usually done by the defendent, but usually the terms are set by the prosecution. The prosecution took the crimes the knew they could win without a shred of doubt in court and the judge was lenient in his sentencing because of that. If you read the documents just because there were statements made, doesn’t mean there was any tangible evidence like dna, fingerprints, etc to tie Vick directly to those acts.

    If you think your group is not being obnoxious or making threats then go check out their facebook page. There are multiple posts of extreme hate, wishing of severe injury, and making of ridiculous claims. Nobody here or from that group knows Mike Vick personally. Your group continues to proliferate the idea that everything is a pr move and he has not grown. If you or anybody else can present a personal experience outside of internet articles or youtube videos that supports their statements then so be it. The problem is that nobody has any personal accounts, just the same recycled information and assumptions from 2009.

    • Kivatar
      29 September 2015 at 6:36 pm
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      I worked in the legal profession my entire life, so I understand the legal process. As I said, Vick confessed to what he did, so there didn’t need to be any “tangible evidence” such as DNA or fingerprints. He admitted what he did, and his codefendants confirmed it. I don’t rely on “you tube videos” or hearsay. I have read the court records and seen official interviews. I have been involved in this issue since day one, and even donated to the purchase of the Bad Newz Kennels by Dogs Deserve Better, which is now called Good Newz Rehab and rehabilitates dogs on the same bloody ground where so many dogs lost their lives.

      There are assholes and idiots on both sides. The only “group” I’m in is people who spend our time and money rescuing and saving dogs lives, and engage in nonviolent methods such as sharing facts and boycotting to express our opinions and keep the memory of the dogs alive.

      You’re certainly entitled to your opinion. My only purpose in responding to you was because you called the journalist a joke, even though as a sports writer he’s entitled to express his opinion, and you consider fans who oppose Vick being on team and boycotting “delusional.” Our priorities are different, and we all stand up for what we think is right, so what’s the big deal? Karma will take care of things in the end, and in the meantime, there are football games for you to watch and dogs for me to save. Have a nice day.

    • Sybil Ward
      3 January 2016 at 7:16 pm
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      pleas bargains this was a federal pleas bargain and he had to tell the entire story of what he did asshat…I read the all the motions by attorney and case
      my answer to the other stupid ass here it is and for you as well.

      hey you B. Hulick
      September 29, 2015 at 3:44 pm

      Please, remember that we all are a result of how we are raised. If we are raised to abuse, we see that as normal. Michael Vick was raised in a culture where dog fighting was the normal and therefore he thought it was normal. He has seen how wrong it was. You are not judge and jury so please present all facts; not just the ones you want to present.
      Answer to Hulick: he was not raised to do this WRONG
      His Uncle told him to stop in 2005
      He had several domestic abuse calls to his home in VA (prior to marrying) his present wife
      He went to jail for money laundering this is public record, read it..
      He never wrote any book it was a publicity stunt- It was written by a ghost writer
      Pete Rose cant have anything to do with Baseball and this piece of crap can play football…hmmmmm
      Those of us posting are equally concerned with rape and molestation of people – be they children or adults.
      However, that is not the subject of this post. MV is a psychopath. VACANT eyes
      he got caught
      He is not sorry – just mad he got caught –the rescue organization that took in over 25 of his damage dogs is BEST FRIENDS in Utah
      He never offered them a penny … he never called them to ask about the dogs. CALL them they will verify it

      So I am tired of people defending him WHY? Because he can play football? Hell I can go grab a few of the kids who play in the Harlem team from FDR school next door, some of whom can play just a good as this person can. so really?
      Sports – in any field can be filled by good payers with awesome talent..
      he shoudl be doing anything but p[laying football. He has to move all the time no one wants him in thier town representing their teams,,,
      He needs to get a therapist Because I truly believe one day he is going to snap
      1.beats girlfriend, now wife, kills dogs hmmmm

  • Gilbert
    29 September 2015 at 6:15 pm
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    You figure a true Steelers fan would know how to spell Steelers not Stillers lol. Go Raiders

  • Rob
    29 September 2015 at 6:36 pm
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    You all are ridiculous. I like dogs, and in no way do I condone what Vick did 8 YEARS AGO. Just don’t take it out on Vick, or the Steelers. Take it out on our society, and a dark part of our society at that. Vick was born with very little parental supervision, in a housing project in a crime-ridden neighborhood where there were drug dealings, drive-by shootings, and killings. He grew up in a setting where dog fighting was a part of the culture. You can’t sit there and say that you wouldn’t have turned out the same as Vick just because you grew up with morals are a dog lover now. Stop being so self-righteous and learn to forgive. This was 8 years ago, Vick is a totally different person now and doesn’t even hang out with the same crowd. He has been a model citizen ever since, and the Steelers did what they through was best for the team. So get off your high horse you self-righteous yinzers sheesh.

    • Kivatar
      29 September 2015 at 6:52 pm
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      Rob, so I guess all criminals who grew up in certain cultures (drugs, abuse, poor parenting) can be excused for their crimes? What about all the people who grew up in that “culture” and knew better than to electrocute, hang, drown, and beat dogs to death? He himself stated that he knew what he was doing was wrong, but didn’t know he would actually go to jail for it. He also stated he doesn’t regret anything except the length of his prison sentence. He has no remorse, and HE made choices. The fact that he will go down in history for slaughtering dogs instead of playing football is the consequence of those choices.

      By the way, how do you know he’s a “totally different person” now and is a “model citizen?” Fact is, other than the fines and community service required by his sentence and PR team, since his release he has done NOTHING to redeem himself (and he had plenty of time on his hands while he was an unemployed football player).

      It’s not about forgiveness. It’s not our place to judge or forgive, but we’ll never forget. And while Vick makes his almost million dollar salary this year (none of which is being contributed to the dogs who are still alive but also still require medical care and rehabilitation), some of us will be contributing our time, money, and energy to make sure those dogs and others never meet the same fate as the dogs Vick slaughtered.

  • Katie
    29 September 2015 at 6:36 pm
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    Hi Kevin,
    Just because the case was plea bargained doesn’t mean that his crimes were insignificant (even just including those which he personally admitted to such as electrocuting, beating and hanging underperforming dogs to death). He had a great legal team and operated during a time of antiquated laws, we get it. I agree that sadly, he was punished by the laws at the time (and am happy to be a part of a group working to change these laws in pa). However, I believe many people are rightfully disturbed by his presence on the Steelers because if we are honest, many fans personally identify with teams because of the enjoyment associated with feeling as though they are actually a part of the team (this is why a person will often hear fans saying things like “we play this weekend” or “we just scored” etc…) it is an interesting phenomena but it exists nonetheless and most decent people are having difficulty identifying with and cheering for a team that was willing to overlook the heinous behaviors this man admitted to and make him one of “us”.

    • Kivatar
      29 September 2015 at 7:06 pm
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      Well stated, Katie. I have several die-hard Steeler fans who are also dog lovers who are struggling with finding a balance. Although we know that our team members aren’t perfect and have made mistakes, anyone who truly knows the facts about what Vick did have a hard time accepting him into the Steeler “family,” especially in light of the fact that he’s never really expressed any true remorse for what he did to the dogs.

  • Jimbob
    29 September 2015 at 6:40 pm
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    So dog-fighting is where you cross the line, but sexual assault and rape are ok? How do you defend Big Ben?

    • Kivatar
      29 September 2015 at 7:00 pm
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      Guess what, Jimbob, we can and do actually object to more than one horrendous issue at a time! No one is saying sexual assault and rape are ok. What Ben did is reprehensible, but the people he assaulted can speak up for themselves, they can report him, file charges, sue… or accept a payoff to keep quiet. And Ben can afford to retain attorneys that can get him off.

      Too bad the dogs didn’t have any chance to survive.

  • Jamz83
    29 September 2015 at 8:16 pm
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    I like the rest of you am a life long Steeler’s FAN (35 years now) and not a Michael Vick fan at all. I too find what Vick did as reprehensible and inexcusable and I wish he was not on the team; but how you can abandon your team and the other 52 players over the disgust you have for a single player? Why is it so difficult to separate the team from the individual (continue to support the team and still have your hatred for Vick)?
    I will not put away my Steeler flag or my terrible towel or my jerseys and will continue to wear them with pride as I know in my heart and mind that my supporting my team does not mean I am supporting Vick. I wish those of you who can not separate the two and who choose not to support the team reconsider.

    Steeler’s fan for life!

    • Kivatar
      29 September 2015 at 8:27 pm
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      How is it “abandoning” your team? All the players still get their paychecks. I just put my shirts away until Vick is no longer on the team. No violence, no obnoxiousness. I’m just not spending any money on anything Steeler related until Vick is gone. Not supporting Vick doesn’t mean I’m abandoning the team. I’m not hurting anyone, just being true to myself.

  • Knots
    29 September 2015 at 8:44 pm
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    100% agree!! Anyone who treats defenseless animals the way Vick did will never change. Amoral he will forever be.

  • Becky
    29 September 2015 at 8:48 pm
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    I believe half of what I see and nothing that I hear. Where I was employed someone had me pregnant, raped, having an abortion , having cancer, being gay and so many other things it’s hysterical
    Just becouse I walked my own walk n never went with the “crowd”
    And I was in LAW ENFORCEMENT!!!!!
    Vick may have put money into it
    But!!! Show me some pictures I don’t believe anyone quoting court documents
    SHOW ME PICTURES NOT PHOTOS TAMPERD WITH CUZ THATS ALL THATS ON FB

  • S
    29 September 2015 at 8:52 pm
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  • Joseph Rodgers
    29 September 2015 at 9:05 pm
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    Why is this scum bag allowed to wear the uniform? Why are the good people of Pittsburgh standing by while this POS tarnishes the Steelers legacy? Why is he not booed off the field, and afraid to show his face in public? For god’s sake, do something. Email any sponsor that uses a Steeler logo and tell them, they’re not getting your money until this low life is gone. Maybe “dollar” pressure will wake up Steeler Management.

    • Katie
      29 September 2015 at 10:42 pm
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      Hi Joseph! I couldn’t agree with you more! Please know that there are people out there who are trying to make a difference by changing legislation, letter writing, protesting etc… If you have not already done so, I would encourage you to check out the “Pittsburghers against Michael Vick” Facebook page. We are 27,000 plus strong and would welcome more likeminded folks! Thank you…

  • Lori R
    29 September 2015 at 9:09 pm
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    Cant stand the sight of him so I’m not watching any steelers games this season. Cant beleive the Rooneys signed him to the team. I have yet to see him truly remorseful for what he did. What remorse he did show didnt look very genuine.

  • Stan4530
    29 September 2015 at 10:03 pm
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    I understand the anger people feel at what Vick did…it was horrendous. I’m just bewildered …Ben has done horrendous things and bordering on illegal acts, so has Hines, Bell, Plaxico Burress….and many, many others.

    All have been forgiven except Vick…just don’t understand the hate.

    • Kivatar
      30 September 2015 at 12:38 am
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      Stan, first of all, Ben and the others did things to people who can speak out, press charges, sue … and/or take a payoff to keep quiet. These people had that choice. The dogs never had a chance. Why do you assume that the people who abhor what Vick did are any more “forgiving” of what the others allegedly did, but Vick is the only one who was convicted and is a felon. Like there’s no other player in the country qualified to be a backup QB?

      Since Vick has made it quite clear he has no remorse, some of us find it necessary to speak up for the dogs that he hung, drowned, electrocuted, and beat to death. Once you know the facts of what he did, it’s impossible to forget.

  • Dominique Paul
    29 September 2015 at 10:16 pm
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    Thank you for this article, it describes everything me and my family are feeling. Including my father who went to his first Steelers game 63 years ago! Having Michael Vick on our team is shameful. I’m ashamed! I can’t cheer for that man! And, anyone who has the courage to read the detailed account of what Vick did to those dogs…and who can still support him or say “move on, we’ve all got skeletons in our closet”….. All I can do is pray for you.

  • Fred
    29 September 2015 at 10:43 pm
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    I wish more Pittsburgh journalists had the courage to take on the Steelers. From hiring the dog torturer, to paying off rape victims, covering up violence against women, charging the government for honoring American heroes, the Rooney’s have the whole town wrapped around their finger. People thing that the “Steelers way” is somehow good, but it’s a cult of the uneducated, with a mercenary family at the head, that has been holding up the town since before building the unnecessary stadium.

  • Karrie
    29 September 2015 at 11:21 pm
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    thanks for this great article. You nailed it I feel exactly the same. I’m so tired of people defending him and I can’t get the images of his abuse out of my mind. I have lost respect for the Steeler decision makers that have condoned his behavior. He is undeserving of wearing a Steeler uniform. I’m tired of being told I’m not a real fan or that he paid his dues or that he deserves a second chance. I am a real fan but one with integrity that knows that he is wrong for the Steelers and I will continue to voice my opinion. Thanks for the voice of reason!!!

  • Emma Blauser
    30 September 2015 at 12:25 am
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    Thank you. I have often been verbally assaulted for my feelings on Vick. I was appalled when he was welcomed back into the NFL and horrified when he was signed to my beloved team. I understand that “people make mistakes” but what he did was calculated. It wasn’t a crime of passion or a lack of judgement, it was planned and executed torture.
    Thank you for giving a voice to those who did not have one. Thank you for telling the perspective of a grieving Steelers fan.

  • Christy galvin
    30 September 2015 at 1:40 am
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    i can’t believe how spot on this article is. I have been harassed and told I am not a fan if I can’t cheer with Vick on the team. Yet, the people who want to argue have clearly not done their homework. Thank you so much for stating it so clearly. I have started volunteering at an animal rescue foundation Sunday afternoons since they picked up Vick and it is the most rewarding thing I have ever done. The steelers sold their soul for this season, maybe more. And they didn’t get much in return for it. Hope it was worth it.

  • Dawn
    30 September 2015 at 1:53 am
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    I have one word for people who have the capacity to torture, and torture, and torture… Bang! Removal from our planet.

    Go watch a video of a dog fight from beginning to end, see how they “train”, dispose, and torture over and over. Those dogs are born to obey. They die for love. They live in unimaginable pain, and TORTURE! WHAT AREN’T YOU GETTING?! HE TORTURED HUNDREDS, THOUSANDS!

    May you find a keeper just like yourself.

    Sick bastards. The people defending him can’t even FATHOM what that sick-o did. How many! How often!

    If you saw it in person, saw how many electrocuted, drowned, beaten, shot, punched, tied up and defenseless to be torn to pieces, cut and stabbed… Crying, screaming, yelping, betrayed, broken… Not once. Not twice. Over and over and over. Anyone who is capable of this shouldn’t be allowed to live a free life with human beings. This is a mental illness. Sane humans are not capable of torturing anything.

  • CAS
    30 September 2015 at 2:33 am
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    Anybody who supports the Steelers while Vick is on the team has blood on their hands too. Vick was involved in a multi-state, multi-million dollar dog fighting right (and most dog fighting rings have ties to drug rings and prostitution rings). Vick’s cronies are still involved and as Vick hires his buddies to work for him that money makes it way to those rings. This would have never happened under Cowher’s watch and we can all thank Tomlin for ghettoing up the team. The Steelers have lost all of their integrity. Old man Rooney should have his head examined too. I have never been so ashamed to be a Steelers fan in my life and I refuse to support the team this year because I do not want my money trickling down into those rings. Bye Steelers. I hope you lose every game this season.

  • BlazingOnFire
    30 September 2015 at 2:53 am
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    When I heard Pittsburgh signed Vick my stomach turned and my heart was filled with dread. I agree, I could NEVER root for a cold blooded animal torturer, cheer him on, or support his team to victory. This was a bad move for the Steelers. Sadly the entire team will bear the burden of Vick’s shame.

  • donald e woodard
    30 September 2015 at 4:39 am
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    you can tell it is white people whom talk against this man, whom done some bad things and done his time for these things, lost money and let not forget it is another Black man is the reason for every bad thins happening in the world and with the steelers, I am a black man and I only read hate and all of these other comment are about hate and nothing to do with any Dogs and it is sad that these kind of people are still in the world, it sadden me to call myself a American.

  • Mike
    30 September 2015 at 4:42 am
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    Vick serves time and labeled the devil.

    Roethlisberger doesn’t serve time and everyone turns a blind eye.

    Hypocrits.

    • Debbie D.
      30 September 2015 at 3:00 pm
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      HypocritEs. If you read the reports of what he did to those dogs, you would be horrified. It’s not just about being a “dog lover.” He murdered and tortured those dogs. It’s been proven that anyone capable of doing that to animals is also capable of doing the same to human beings.

  • Vaughn
    30 September 2015 at 5:07 am
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    Thank you for the great article.

    There was a former Steelers player named Steve Courson who, after retirement, sacrificed his life to protect his dog from a falling tree. The dog survived the accident, but Steve Courson did not.

    What are the Rooneys saying to Steve Courson and his family when they hire Michael Vick to play for them, after Vick systematically treated those dogs cruelly and mercilessly, for the sake of “sport” and profit?

  • Katie
    30 September 2015 at 5:21 am
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    Hi Mr. Woodard,

    I can assure you that I am equally disgusted by other famous animal abusers such as Jeffrey Dahmer, David Berkowitz (Son of Sam), Carroll Edward Cole, etc…all of whom are Caucasian. My hope is that one day, all human voices will speak out against the torture of defenseless creatures!

  • Michelle
    30 September 2015 at 5:35 am
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    Great article. Thank you for writing this.

  • K. Vater
    30 September 2015 at 5:50 am
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    Um. Ben roethlisberger is a rapist. But we’re not going to talk about that are we? As a steeler fan just as you are let’s not point fingers without first taking stock of the rest of the horrors that have been allowed.

  • Michelle
    30 September 2015 at 6:58 am
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    Again, thank you for the great article!!
    Michael Vick tortured and killed innocent dogs and he has never paid for that abuse or even apologized for it. As stated in the article, (link below) “Jumper cables were clipped onto the ears of underperforming dogs, then, just like with a car, the cables were connected to the terminals of car batteries before lifting and tossing the shamed dogs into the water.”
    HOW IS IT POSSIBLE THAT ANY HUMAN BEING CAN DEFEND THIS MAN AND HIS EVIL CRIMES AGAINST DOGS?!?!
    http://www.sfgate.com/pets/yourwholepet/article/Michael-Vick-s-unpaid-dues-Why-dog-advocates-2455696.php

  • MeAndYrSistr
    30 September 2015 at 10:16 am
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    Right. Vick can do whatever he wants, Peterson gets to play after beating the hell out of kids, Greg hardy strangled his girlfriend and threw her on a bed full of weapons threatening to kill her, Ray MacDonald best a pregnant woman

    And Ray rice can’t find a job.

  • MeAndYrSistr
    30 September 2015 at 10:17 am
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    The nfl is garbage.

  • Lori
    30 September 2015 at 10:57 am
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    Thank you for this article. The Steelers have sold their soul. I’ve always looked forward to watching every game. I can’t stomach them now. At first I my compromise was hoping Vick would get sacked every time he was in. But now that Ben’s out, I won’t even watch. I hope they get trounced.

  • Max
    30 September 2015 at 11:11 am
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    What he did to those dogs is unimaginable. Has he ever attempted to reimburse the rescues and rehabs that took in the Victory Dogs (those that could be saved). How many other dogs died bc those resources were being used on Vicks’ dogs?
    He quit bc he got caught. Had he not been caught he’d still be using dogs for jump rope. He’s a bad person. If a team wants to sign him I guess it’s no different than signing a rapist or wife-beater to some but not to me. What he did was just unimaginable.

  • Atrain
    30 September 2015 at 12:15 pm
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    I love the way everyone comments as if they know exactly what happened in these situations. I certainly don’t know what happened with Vick or Rothlesberger and I am not going to pretend I do like most of you are doing. Maybe it was a lot worse than what we heard or maybe it was a lot better. Maybe Ben and Mike didn’t do a damn thing or maybe they were both heartless pricks. Who knows? Certainly none of us. I am a football fan. I am a dog lover. I abhor violence against women, dogs, or anyone. But what I dislike more than anything is this Kangaroo court called social media.

    • Kivatar
      30 September 2015 at 1:01 pm
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      Atrain, we most certainly DO know what Vick did. We have his confession, court proceedings, books, interviews, and we know each of the dogs who survived (and who have since died), most who still need medical and rehabilitative care (for which Vick has never contributed since his initial court-ordered fine, nor has he ever checked on any of their wellbeing). It definitely IS worse than what the majority of people think because most people don’t take the time OR cannot bear to read the true facts of exactly what Vick did to the dogs (attaching jumper cables to dogs’ ears and hanging them over a pool, and then electrocuting and drowning them, smashing them into the ground until dead, etc.). What I dislike more than anything is people who don’t know the facts criticizing those who do. If you’re interested in the truth, the facts are available, and they are not pretty. If you’re not interested in the truth, at least have the decency to support those of us who do and who try to keep the memory of the dogs alive.

    • Sybil Ward
      3 January 2016 at 7:22 pm
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      Hey reading is fundamental READ the case it is a free document on line
      kangaroo court are you fucking real>/?

  • Gene Pelletier
    30 September 2015 at 3:38 pm
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    I agree totally Vick should not be able to play ball!!at least with non-dog problems the injured can speak for their selves.I have been a Steelers fan for over 50 years.I just think they could of pick a better man even though he may not be as good !!!!

  • SFFL
    30 September 2015 at 5:47 pm
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    It’s all about the TEAM. Always has been, always will be.

    GO STEELERS!!!!!!

    Such BS, all this judgmental nonsense going on about this topic. “Let he who is without sin…”

    And for all those that want to jump off the bandwagon (because that’s clearly what you are: a bandwagoner. You just didn’t know it until now), feel free to send all your Steelers gear my way.

  • Kristy Davis
    30 September 2015 at 7:25 pm
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    Excellent article. Your opinions are shared by so many, including my family of animal lovers. My family are lifelong Steelers fans. As soon as the Steelers signed Michael Vick, my Dad wrote them a letter telling them how disappointed he was & that you can tell a person’s character by how they treat an animal. The Steelers wrote him back & said everyone deserves a 2nd chance & we should pray for Michael Vick. I pray he gets horribly mauled & injured & suffers every day for the rest of his life.

  • Nick
    30 September 2015 at 9:27 pm
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    I agree,Vick and his associates committed horrible acts of animal cruelty. Acts that leave you questioning the type of inner being they all must be. How could any sane caring person commit such acts! The court documents are filled with situations that will weigh on the heart. In fact we as a society found the acts so horrible that we sentenced him to federal prison. Federal prison is not a lite punishment. Many individuals who commit more violent crimes are sentenced to prison as well. They are given a time frame our society or those representing the society feel is propionate to the crime. Many individuals during their sentence do look inward, they do feel guilt, they do take conscious responsibility for their actions, and they do want to repent. They also want to be given a chance to show they see the error in their ways and want to rejoin society as a new person. How can we as a society tell those individuals that jail wasn’t enough, even though we set the punishment, we want their entire life. We want their entire after we said they served their time. I just can’t accept that type of view. How does that make us a civil society how does that make us a human society? Should we not let people repent and should we not be willing to forgive?

    • Kivatar
      2 October 2015 at 6:41 pm
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      Nick, had Vick actually REPENTED, it might be a different story, but he has not. He stated in a live interview that he regrets NOTHING but the length of his prison sentence, that he knew what he did was wrong but he didn’t actually think he could go to jail for it, and he has said nothing that I’m aware of since his release from prison to say differently. If he was truly remorseful, you’d see his face plastered all over the media, traveling around (while he was unemployed for such a lengthy period not playing football) and speaking out against the horrors of dogfighting, but he has not. He’s done nothing other than what he was required to do.

  • You Are Morons
    30 September 2015 at 9:57 pm
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    But Ben gets a pass for his transgressions despite never serving a day for what he did?

  • Janie VanHoose
    1 October 2015 at 2:31 am
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    I have been a dog lover all my life and a football fan since the Bears had Walter Payton. I have owned Pitbulls all my life and have always argued for them regardless of what the media has tried to portray them as. But when Michael Vick got out of his so called prison time I was appalled that the NFL would take him back! The man has NEVER apologized for the atrocious acts he committed nor has he been willing to reconcile with any of the dogs even after numerous offers to do so. I feel that the article speaks volumes about what other people think and feel but are afraid to stand up and speak out. Michael Vick is paying for his part, he has yet to show any kind of “talent” and he will continue to fall short on everything else he does in life until the day he meets God and then….

  • Tom
    1 October 2015 at 6:57 am
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    I miss the good ol’ days when Noll pumped his players with steroids and Cower ran a CTE factory with no regard. Those men where honorable. Tomlin has destroyed this “the Steeler way.”

    Please. This article is damn joke. And so are you people that turn a blind eye to every other infraction this team and league has done, then act disgusted about this.

  • TJS
    1 October 2015 at 3:12 pm
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    You guys really need to spend 30 seconds looking this stuff up… He was only convicted because he owned the property. To this day, there’s still no evidence that he took part… He served his time, he made HUGE donations to several humane societies, and also always has even before the legal trouble… Seriously, it takes 30 seconds to find this stuff…

    NOW, that being said, he’s still incredibly terrible…

    As a Falcons fan myself, I hated him since he started. His panic moments that lead him to run instead of pass is detrimental, and he’s put 2 teams into rebuilds… Atlanta, who drafted him during their rebuild, also was sent into a 2nd rebuild shortly after, and now look at Philly…

    He’s a disgrace to the QB position, and I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again. Great job picking him up Pittsburgh, enjoy the upcoming rebuild…

    • Kivatar
      1 October 2015 at 9:02 pm
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      FYI, he confessed that he hung, drowned, electrocuted, and beat dogs to death, and the only “huge” donations he made of his money or time was required by his sentence or his PR team. Bottom line is he has no remorse. He has stated in a live interview that he regrets nothing except the length of his prison sentence.

  • Johnnie Walker
    1 October 2015 at 3:19 pm
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    Come on, Steelers fans you don’t have any problem with Big Ben and the multiple rape accusations and destruction of evidence (nice to have off duty State Troopers as your personal security detail). Vick at least went to Jail, answered for his crimes, paid his debt to society and has reformed. Kind of hypocritical don’t you think!

    • Kivatar
      1 October 2015 at 9:08 pm
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      OF COURSE we had a problem with Ben, but he was not convicted of anything. Also, he “assaulted” people with the ability to speak out, sue him, file charges … or accept money to keep their mouths shut. The dogs never had a chance. Vick was signed as a convicted felon. What a great message that sends to the youth today, huh?

      How exactly is Vick “reformed?” How does one rehabilitate from a culture where fighting dogs is acceptable. You don’t just stop enjoying laughing while you electrocute, hang, drown, and beat dogs to death. The only time and money he has paid was required by his sentence and his PR team. And he stated in a live interview that he knew what he did was wrong, but he didn’t think he could actually go to prison for it. He also stated he wouldn’t change a thing about his life, except for the length of his prison sentence. Oh, and two years ago he got another dog.

  • Steelers are my rival!!!
    1 October 2015 at 4:02 pm
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    TY for this….

  • Marlene
    1 October 2015 at 4:59 pm
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    Finally, someone who gets what a disgrace and shame that Tomlim had brought upon our wonderful city.
    I,too, cannot stand the sight of sick vick. He is a sociopath. Look into his eyes. He has no soul.

  • Shari
    1 October 2015 at 8:04 pm
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    GREAT ARTICLE! Yes you can be a Steeler fan and still HATE VICK!! I don’t know why so many Steeler fans are upset with the fans that do not want Vick on their beloved team! I would not want him on my team either and would protest such! And please stop bringing other players into the conversation..this is about Vick, period.

  • carol leasehfski
    2 October 2015 at 9:55 am
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    I am not a Steelers fan and one doesn’t need to be a Steelers fan to understand how some feel about him. One only needs to know that his actions and behaviors were criminal and incomprehensible. I would be upset with him on my team but we should be upset that he is allowed to play in the NFL! This article is about Vick and I will keep my comments to him.

  • Jodan
    3 October 2015 at 1:28 am
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    I could care less about football, regardless what team it is! Dislike the game, dislike what some of its players do on their off time! But what I dislike/despise most is some idiot who abuses and kills an innocent animal just for the fun of it!! THAT’S SICK!!!!!

  • Jim
    3 October 2015 at 8:00 pm
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    This is hands down the dumbest article I have read in months. I have dogs and cats and love them like my children. He obviously grew up in an environment that didn’t respect animals. I don’t see you defending chickens that are stuck in tiny pens where they can’t move so you can eat your Chick Fil A sandwich. He served his time. Grow up.

  • Matt
    4 October 2015 at 3:05 pm
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    It’s really sad to see to narrow minded some people can be. The simple truth is this, you do NOT want to believe someone like Vick can be a changed man. For you, it’s once a dog killer, always a dog killer. And for that, I feel sorry for you. You know nothing about his life right now, only what you want to believe. So go ahead and spew your vile hate towards a man who has tried to change. Your ignorance will only hold you back.

  • Nancy
    4 October 2015 at 9:09 pm
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    My thoughts almost exactly. Thank you for this well-written, accurate commentary. My respect for the team I have loved all my life diminished rapidly with the signing of the dog killer. The standards to participate in a professional sport should be raised to exclude the hiring of convicted felons.

  • Sybil Ward
    29 December 2015 at 3:06 am
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    Atrain his case is online public info about 40 pages He stated he killed the dogs himself.

  • Penny Hurst
    4 January 2016 at 10:11 am
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    It’s not been that long since Vick stated in an interview that he knew it was morally wrong to fight and murder the dogs, he just didn’t think he’d get caught. Yet he went ahead and continued to do it. He also stated he has been fascinated by it since he was 8 years old. That’s an entire lifetime of not only watching torture and murder to helpless victim’s but participating in it. Also, he may have been arrested for this horrid crime but he did not serve one night in jail for it. Look it up. He has not learned any kind of lesson. He also was not supposed to ever have an animal again after his heinous crime’s of which he also threw his own family pet in the fighting ring at one point and watched that poor baby suffer and die, however, he whined so much after getting out of jail that the law let him have a dog. Seriously!!
    The only reason he’s playing football is because he’s making money for the NFL. They are paying people in high places to get his ticket to whatever he wants. The only problem is, they didn’t count in so many animal advocates continuing to remember what he did. Keeping his horror alive, because torturing and murdering helpless victims and getting away with it, not going to jail fir it, nit showing remorse ever, then coming back out to make millions, being an icon especially to little children who are very impressionable, getting every thing he wants with no implication of justice, that’s not a sign of any thing that is good. It’s not a sign to show anyone that it’s ok. It just shows the world that they can repeat what he did and come out smelling like roses. Vick should not only “NOT” be playing any type of sports but he should be in jail for what he did.

  • Sharon ann deluca
    4 January 2016 at 1:47 pm
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    Culture and tradition are two words that are bandied about to promote abysmal behavior by people who are delusional! As a former jail nurse I saw animal abusers come and go! they are NEVER SORRY! GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY THEY WILL DO IT AGAIN! He is an sociopath that wil eventually snap and kill a human! I HOPE HE GETS HIT SOOO FUCKING HARD ON THE FIELD THAT THEY SNAP HIS SPINE IN TWO!

  • Jami
    6 January 2016 at 6:16 am
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    Superb, what a blog it is! This blog provides helpful information to us, keep it up.

  • Dropped Like Rock
    25 January 2016 at 2:00 am
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    43 years of being a Steelers fan came to a end when they signed on that piece of shit. Dozens of T-Shirts, sweatshirts, jackets, and hats in the trash. Anyone want to buy a Terry Bradshaw rookie card I have 3, also Lynn Swan, Mean Joe Green (2nd year he didn’t have a rookie card) and other from when the team was respectable.

  • Darin
    26 January 2016 at 6:53 pm
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    First of all I Love The Steelers I get so sick this armchair GM keep bringing Vick I know what he did was wrong but I do recall another steeler qb had rape hanging over him nobody says anything about that I have a dog and 2daughters I think I would more likely be more pissed if someone touched my girls than my dog the bottom line is wrong is wrong no matter what it is so just let it

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